bill clinton telling us at the second briefing before he went to camp david, trying and failing is better than not trying at all. i remember how inspired i was by that. that is an appropriate slogan for a college or high school football team. it is not a substitute for the most consequential power on earth. we get ourselves into trouble when we commit two since. one, the sin of on the contents. we think we can do everything. two, the transgression of omniscience. the debate between us has to do with the provision of military assistance and construction of a new fly zone. that is the debate here. let's not moralize this or turn it into a morality play. that is the question. i would argue that history, since you both invoked it, in the last decade, is on my side. you have to tell me why you think -- >> let's pick up on that point. reminder, we are tweaking it all. tweaking this very lively debate at #midebatesyria. are there any other syrian americans or syrian residents of the house? a we the you break it you bought it. do we get stuck policing a fight that is not ours and that we historic